Friday polls: Will Clinton get a post-PA boost?
Three days after the Pennsylvania primary, Hillary Clinton might have gotten a boost from her Tuesday victory if we believe Gallup's tracking poll. Clinton has recovered from a 10% deficit on April 22nd and has forced a statistical tie, with Obama ahead 48% to 47% in today's results which include interviews conducted on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Gallup adds, "Support for Clinton is significantly higher in these post-primary interviews than it was just prior to her Pennsylvania victory." Gallup also finds Clinton jumping to a lead against McCain, 47% to 45%, while Obama narrowly trails, 46% to 45% -- the first time in a while Clinton's trendline is better than Obama's in Gallup.
Clinton benefited from a similar boost of support in the days immediately following the ABC debate but the race quickly fell back to its pre-debate form. Also, Rasmussen's tracking finds no tightening of the race -- though it is on a four-day average rather than a three-day one like Gallup, so momentum swings take a longer time to register. In the general, Rasmussen finds a similar improvement for Democrats; while McCain is typically strong in Rasmussen, he is today tied with Obama and leads Clinton by 2, 47% to 45%.
The two questions in the coming days will thus be: Will Clinton confirm and maintain a boost? And will that momentum affect numbers in Indiana and North Carolina? For now, the trendline seems to be negative for her in Indiana, though she is certainly in a position to win as a new poll indicates:
Meanwhile, Rasmussen released two important general election polls:
As for Pennsylvania, as troubling as those numbers are for Dems, this is probably as bad as it is going to get for the two Democrats to appeal to each other's supporters. The exit polls on Tuesday suggested that a higher number of voters than usual would be dissatisfied if the candidate they weren't supporting got the nomination. At least some of those will end up joining the Democratic side; the exact proportion that will stay away will determine the nominee's fate come November.
On a last polling note, Rasmussen also released a survey of the Massachusetts Senate race and finds John Kerry trouncing his Republican opponents and staying above 50%; he leads Jeff Beaty 55% to 30% and Jim Ogonowski (who came close to picking up a blue district in a special election in 2007) 53% to 31%. Kerry is likely to coast to re-election but it is worth pointing out that an entrenched incumbent like him could have hoped to come even further ahead against mostly unknown Republicans.
Clinton benefited from a similar boost of support in the days immediately following the ABC debate but the race quickly fell back to its pre-debate form. Also, Rasmussen's tracking finds no tightening of the race -- though it is on a four-day average rather than a three-day one like Gallup, so momentum swings take a longer time to register. In the general, Rasmussen finds a similar improvement for Democrats; while McCain is typically strong in Rasmussen, he is today tied with Obama and leads Clinton by 2, 47% to 45%.
The two questions in the coming days will thus be: Will Clinton confirm and maintain a boost? And will that momentum affect numbers in Indiana and North Carolina? For now, the trendline seems to be negative for her in Indiana, though she is certainly in a position to win as a new poll indicates:
- ARG, who came closer in PA than in previous contests, finds Clinton ahead 50% to 45%. At the beginning of April, Clinton was ahead 53% to 44%.
- The partisanship gap is fascinating: Clinton leads by 20% among registered Democrats, Obama is ahead by 31% among independents and Republicans.
Meanwhile, Rasmussen released two important general election polls:
- First, a poll from Pennsylvania finds that both Democrats have lost ground against McCain in the past two weeks -- suggesting that the increased negativity of the final days might have undermined their appeal. Clinton is now leading McCain 47% to 42% (she led by 9% two weeks ago); Obama trails 44% to 43% (he led by 8% two weeks ago).
- Clinton gets 78% of registered Democrats, Obama only 65%; unfortunately for the Illinois Senator, that's certainly not an outlier. Dozens of polls confirm that he has trouble breaking even the 70% mark among registered Democrats.
- In Massachusetts, both Democrats are ahead by double-digits, with Clinton trouncing McCain 55% to 36% and Obama ahead by a narrower 51% to 39%.
As for Pennsylvania, as troubling as those numbers are for Dems, this is probably as bad as it is going to get for the two Democrats to appeal to each other's supporters. The exit polls on Tuesday suggested that a higher number of voters than usual would be dissatisfied if the candidate they weren't supporting got the nomination. At least some of those will end up joining the Democratic side; the exact proportion that will stay away will determine the nominee's fate come November.
On a last polling note, Rasmussen also released a survey of the Massachusetts Senate race and finds John Kerry trouncing his Republican opponents and staying above 50%; he leads Jeff Beaty 55% to 30% and Jim Ogonowski (who came close to picking up a blue district in a special election in 2007) 53% to 31%. Kerry is likely to coast to re-election but it is worth pointing out that an entrenched incumbent like him could have hoped to come even further ahead against mostly unknown Republicans.
18 Comments:
This is such bullshit...what kinda propaganda is this.... does the writer think that there is actually anyone in their sober mind who will buy this biased report!! give me a break...go get a college degree n u might b able to tabulate figures better.... better yet get a ged!!!!!!!
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Anonymous, At
25 April, 2008 16:00
The previous post is a bullshit itself! Ignore it please. Hillary will win the nomination! Hussion is doomed!
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Anonymous, At
25 April, 2008 16:47
I think this highlights the effect of negative campaigning. Hillary went negative, and it affected both her and Obama in bad ways. It seems like everyone loses. People don't like Hillary for going negative. And, people don't like Obama for the negative attacks against him.
Which brings the question of how negative attacks will play out in the general election. I think it'll go worse on Obama. Republicans don't seem to have the same antipathy to dirty politics that Democrats do. No one bats an eye at McCain's supporters saying Katrina happened because God was punishing New Orleans. Because Republicans are supposed to say things like that. So, Obama is facing the negative effects of the negative campaigns, where McCain is going to be largely insulated from the negative effects of going negative.
So, we're stuck in the old cycle. McCain is obviously bad for the country. But, Obama might be a secret Muslim. So, we're going to have another 4 years of bad economic management, irrational wars, wedge issues, anti-women, anti-immigrant, anti-gay, anti-American policies.
How do we get past this? Is going dirty the only way to win nowadays? Is there no punishment for Reagan, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Rove and Bush for putting us in the position? Has the greatest country in the world really become the meanest?
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Anonymous, At
25 April, 2008 16:51
Oh, give me a break! There's no bias here. I'm an Obama supporter, and I don't see the bias. Unless...
The author of this article is obviously in the pocket of the big pollers. He or she is certainly a Numberican, and will stop at nothing to inflict his/her number-based agenda on us! We must all stand up to this blantant abuse of number-theory reporting and support the letter-wielding resistance!!!!!
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Anonymous, At
25 April, 2008 16:54
Well I think the axe has fallen on poor Barack. He really should have fired his campaign manager a few days ago before he made those racist comments.
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Anonymous, At
25 April, 2008 20:25
All the "named" regulars are silent all of a sudden. I guess this turn in Obama's fortunes doesn't bode well with the Obaman mutual admiration society.
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Anonymous, At
26 April, 2008 07:48
Maybe I am one of the "named regulars" you are referring to. I actually have a life so am not always checking this site out (good as it is).
I don't think Obama people are "discouraged" because of one rolling poll average. If that were the case the Clinton supporters must have been absolutely depressed by double digit losses during February in key states like WI, MD and VA (upto a 27% defeat - put a 9% loss in perspective). And those were actual votes rather than a poll. Good try anon
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Anonymous, At
26 April, 2008 09:19
Good to see that one of you isn't flaming Taniel for his reporting the numbers. I guess I won't be questioned again on Hillary's lead among Democrats.
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Anonymous, At
26 April, 2008 09:29
So you agree that before it was reasonable to question your claim that Hillary was more popular because you now grasp to this one poll that shows she is ahead - directly after a victory for her. Lets see how the polls shake out in the next few weeks. Also the GE polls are more important since itisn`t only Dems voting in November.
Most important of all are the primary voters and they have come out more for Obama than Clinton (even including FL).
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Anonymous, At
26 April, 2008 13:55
All along she's been more popular among Democrats and I've never thought it reasonable to state otherwise. This poll that Taniel quotes only confirms it for you. If you think the GE polls are more important now then you'd be forced into admitting a sure landslide for McCain. I don't think you should put that much faith in them lest you find yourself in an uncomfortable position rooting for a republican WH. Hillary has the popular vote lead until Edwards settles with Barack in Mich. Those votes count despite you. No one at the DNC or anywhere else is punishing the actual voters. If you want to argue for voter suppression by all means go right ahead. It will lose you many more votes than those you contest.
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Anonymous, At
26 April, 2008 14:27
Obama followed the rules. Hillary contradicted herself on the process.
McCain landslide - obviously you are looking at different polls to everyone else. McCain is polling about the same against both Clinton and Obama. When the Dems finally get a nominee they will; get a bounce because McCain will be challenged at long last. So quit smoking your funny substances and look at reality.
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Anonymous, At
26 April, 2008 15:11
I'm looking at today's polls which show Barack losing all the blue states and more than McGovern and Hillary with a clear advantage over McCain and Barack trailing. Speak for yourself.
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Anonymous, At
26 April, 2008 17:04
Losing all the blue states - ummm like Illinois, Wisconsin, Oregon, Maryland etc (not). Be factual and not make incorrect generalizations. Stop smoking the doobie!!
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Anonymous, At
26 April, 2008 18:26
Illinois is the only big blue state get real here. If he wasn't senator there he'd have lost that one.
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Anonymous, At
26 April, 2008 20:03
obama says mr wright/wrong is his spritiual leader. WE THE VOTERS DO NOT WANT MR WRIGHT BEING OUR PRESIDENTS SPRIUAL LEADER SINCERELY, JIM BECK
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