Looking ahead: Will superdelegates continue waiting?
The Democratic race continues, and very little has changed. Superdelegates and donors are now Hillary Clinton's primary audience, more so even than the voters of the upcoming state. She will not be able to meaningfully dent Obama's lead among pledged delegates and there are only a few important contests remaining; Clinton has to score credible victories in most of them, certainly, but she first has to convince superdelegates to wait until June to make up their mind and persuade donors that her campaign is still worth contributing to.
Yesterday's results have been a great success in tremendously boosting Clinton's fundraising. Hillary's campaign is reporting that they have now raised $10 million since the polls closed last night and from now 50,000 donors. That's a very impressive display of strength and, considering how close to being broke Clinton was 24 hours ago, this money will allow her to press on; even if she remains far behind Obama's fundraising haul, it looks like Clinton is more willing to spend her entire fortune while Obama understandably would want to save some for the summer fight against McCain.
[Update: The Clinton campaign via Terry McAuliffe later corrected itself saying it was on track to raise $10 million in 24 hours, still an impressive sum but certainly not what I wrote here. Note that some are doubting these claims. Update 2, Thursday morning: Well, the $10 million happened after all, as of 11pm last night.]
Meanwhile, the superdelegate question is up in the air. There appears to be a consensus that a large number of uncommitted superdelegates are looking to endorse Obama but are unsure of when to do so, with many planning on waiting until the end of the voting process on June 3rd. For now, indeed, there has been no massive movement towards one candidate of the kind that could end the race.
Will it be different this time? Some Obama supporters are hoping that, instead of triggering panic about their candidate's strength, the Pennsylvania results push superdelegates who are leaning Obama to worry about the harm this long primary is inflicting to the party and openly declare themselves. Just this morning, Obama already got a high-profile endorsement from Brad Henry, the Governor of Oklahoma, a state Clinton won handily. And there have been rumors swirling that the Obama campaign has been holding on to a large number of supers who will endorse him in the coming days;
But how much of this is just spin, an elaborate story that the Obama campaign has successfully transformed into conventional wisdom? What is the proof that such large pockets of superdelegates exist since they have not been coming forward for weeks now. Rumors such as these have circulated again and again since Super Tuesday, hinting at massive movements to come and a resulting implosion of the Clinton campaign. They have never come true. Credible media sources reported, for instance, that Obama would get 50 superdelegate endorsements en masse after March 4th, days passed with no such news; neither did reports that Obama was about to get the collective endorsement of the entire North Carolina congressional delegation come to pass.
Yesterday's results have been a great success in tremendously boosting Clinton's fundraising. Hillary's campaign is reporting that they have now raised $10 million since the polls closed last night and from now 50,000 donors. That's a very impressive display of strength and, considering how close to being broke Clinton was 24 hours ago, this money will allow her to press on; even if she remains far behind Obama's fundraising haul, it looks like Clinton is more willing to spend her entire fortune while Obama understandably would want to save some for the summer fight against McCain.
[Update: The Clinton campaign via Terry McAuliffe later corrected itself saying it was on track to raise $10 million in 24 hours, still an impressive sum but certainly not what I wrote here. Note that some are doubting these claims. Update 2, Thursday morning: Well, the $10 million happened after all, as of 11pm last night.]
Meanwhile, the superdelegate question is up in the air. There appears to be a consensus that a large number of uncommitted superdelegates are looking to endorse Obama but are unsure of when to do so, with many planning on waiting until the end of the voting process on June 3rd. For now, indeed, there has been no massive movement towards one candidate of the kind that could end the race.
Will it be different this time? Some Obama supporters are hoping that, instead of triggering panic about their candidate's strength, the Pennsylvania results push superdelegates who are leaning Obama to worry about the harm this long primary is inflicting to the party and openly declare themselves. Just this morning, Obama already got a high-profile endorsement from Brad Henry, the Governor of Oklahoma, a state Clinton won handily. And there have been rumors swirling that the Obama campaign has been holding on to a large number of supers who will endorse him in the coming days;
But how much of this is just spin, an elaborate story that the Obama campaign has successfully transformed into conventional wisdom? What is the proof that such large pockets of superdelegates exist since they have not been coming forward for weeks now. Rumors such as these have circulated again and again since Super Tuesday, hinting at massive movements to come and a resulting implosion of the Clinton campaign. They have never come true. Credible media sources reported, for instance, that Obama would get 50 superdelegate endorsements en masse after March 4th, days passed with no such news; neither did reports that Obama was about to get the collective endorsement of the entire North Carolina congressional delegation come to pass.
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A lot of what the Obama camp says never comes to pass. We keep waiting for him to close the deal but with each passing day his performance fails to keep track with his rhetoric. Creating a track record of phony promises has all but eliminated Obama's credibility and given Democrats a hint of what an Obama term would really change, nothing. He freely condemns the tactics of everyone else but uses them himself. A true hypocrit and a defender of the status quo. He fits the Washington mold quite well.
By Anonymous, At 23 April, 2008 14:05
I think many superdelegates are waiting for the pledged delegate lead to be more finalized. Some of them may not want to be accused of taking the nomination away from the voters. While the result is pretty assured already (Clinton would need 68% of the remaining pledged delegates to close the gap), some people still perceive it as close. And those who are looking for a time to support Obama may not see right after a Clinton "win" as the most appropriate moment.
Barring something extraordinary, the improbability of Clinton winning the pledged delegate count will be even more obvious after NC/IN in two weeks. Undeclared Obama superdelegates may jump in assuming he wins NC and say the result is sufficiently assured that it's not worth drawing out the process. Others may wait two more weeks for OR/KT, but after that there's only 86 pledged delegates left; no real reason for any superdelegate to delay much past that.
Even if superdelegates wait until after all the voting is over, that's still less than a month and a half from now, and the general won't be for six more. So I doubt waiting even that long will have a great effect on the general election.
By dsimon, At 23 April, 2008 14:37
I remember looking at a post that Roger Simon of Politico wrote and he said that in a sense Obama closed the deal after Super Tuesday when he swept the February post-super tuesday states by massive margins. Clinton didn't need to win any of those, but losing them by such large numbers have forced her into the predicament she is in now.
I don't think that the majority of uncommited SDs will come out in masse even after Kentucky, Oregan and West Virgina. They probably don't want to be seen as going against the voters. I say that maybe by June 5th at the earliest will you see blocs of SDs going for one candiate or the other. Remember, after the primaries are over, Obama will only need a sizeable portion, not the majority of the remaining SDs, to reach the mark to become the nominee
By Anonymous, At 23 April, 2008 15:08
I don't think that the majority of uncommited SDs will come out in masse even after Kentucky, Oregan and West Virgina. They probably don't want to be seen as going against the voters. I say that maybe by June 5th at the earliest will you see blocs of SDs going for one candiate or the other.
Perhaps. I admit engaging in rampant speculation (as is, I think, everyone else). I suspect some will jump in after NC, some after OR, and some will wait until all the voting is done on June 3. Depending on how the numbers fall, someone may get to 2024 before June 3. It depends on how many superdelegates think it's not worth waiting in order to bring the process to an earlier close, but one more month may not weigh that heavily on their minds. Still, if an Obama superdelegate were to commit, it would look better after a NC win than after a PA loss.
In another bout of rampant speculation, I wouldn't expect to see much in the way of superdelegate endorsements over the next two weeks before NC/IN. (Each candidate apparently picked up one today.)
By dsimon, At 23 April, 2008 15:25
"on track for 10 million"
whatever that maens
By Anonymous, At 23 April, 2008 15:32
Obama has gained 100 super delegates since early Feb to Clinton's 5 so he has had a large number of super delegates break from him - just not in one mass bloc.
I just came back from seeing Bill Clinton in my small town of Hillsborough, NC and the turnout was good for a mid afternoon event given at short notice. What came through most strongly was the need for change from Bush and by extension GOP policies. I am an Obama supporter but when all is said and done I am a Democrat and regardless of who is the nominee I will vote Democratic. I think alot of supporters of the losing candidate (whomever they are) will support the Democrat because of the gulf between the parties.
The other big news last night that has been overlooked is that McCain barely got 70% of the vote. The base is obviously still not happy with him. When the Dems choose a nominee I expect McCain to drop in the polls.
By Anonymous, At 23 April, 2008 16:05
I agree that once a nomiee is chosen McCain will lower in the polls. The question is for high long will the Dem boost last?
By Anonymous, At 23 April, 2008 18:50
It is unknown how long the boost is - depends on the nominee, the timing and events.
I think the sooner the Dems can start to define McCain the better. But even if this goes on 6 more weeks I think Dems in November will be able to see the difference between Clinton or Obama and McCain.
The GOP primary contest had substantive policy differences. The Democratic primary process is about personality since both candidates have largely the same policies.
By Anonymous, At 23 April, 2008 20:06
This morning I saw Obama on TV, and he looks exhausted. Clearly the PA loss has taken a toll on him. On the other hand, Hillary looks energetic and lively.
In politics, perception is reality. Obama will need to look deep inside if he's going to win the nomination. He's the favorite, but he hasn't gotten it as of yet. At this point I give his chances of taking the nomination at 75%.
Hillary needs to keep pounding away at Barack. She has drawn blood, and if she wants to win the nomination, she needs to pull the Harry Truman trick and meet the people and talk their language. She's a bit of a policy wonk, and I think it (a) intimidates and (b) confuses her audience.
By Anonymous, At 24 April, 2008 07:30
Obama can still regain his stature by coming out strong and disproving the perception that he can't take the heat. More debates are needed desperately. His advisors that want him to hide in the corner should be fired. C'mon Barack, time to show us what you're made of. And stop torturing poor Bill Richardson! He's going to develop a serious health problem doing your dirty work.
By Anonymous, At 24 April, 2008 07:50
Those facial contortions on Larry King last night indicate some serious gastro-intestinal problems.
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