Monday polls: Are tomorrow's contests more suspensful on the GOP side than the Democratic?
Barack Obama and John McCain are expected to post some big victories tomorrow, according to most polls that have been released and to even a quick look of Virginia and Maryland's demographics. A wave of polls today does very little to dispel the conventional wisdom, though it is interesting that the GOP primary is now emerging as a bit more suspensful. Let's look at the polls, first from tomorrow's largest prize of Virginia:
The reason the GOP primary tomorrow is so important is that it could very well mark the end of Huckabee's resistance. McCain's problem appears to be that he is unable to win over conservative voters, and Huckabee won most of the Southern states of Super Tuesday and Louisiana on Saturday. If McCain crushes Huckabee tomorrow night (say by 20% or so) it is hard to see how Huckabee can justify his going forward if he has been trounced so decisively on his own turf (there are many reasons why Virginia is not exaclty Huckabee's home turf, as the demographics of the state allow McCain to win without relying on the staunchly conservative vote, but Huckabee does at some point have to enlarge his base a bit if he wants to extend this).
On the other hand, if this week-end's contests have given renewed hope to McCain's detractors that the front-runner is not necessarily a done deal, Huckabee could make this close by benefiting from a big conservative turnout. Without really threatening McCain's dominant position, that would be one more embarassing loss for the Arizona Senator that would force him to court the Right even more zealously.
In the Democratic race, the situation is very simple: Hillary Clinton can afford to lose, but she cannot afford to lose by these margins nor give up that many delegates for the 3rd election day in a row. She is starting to fall back rapidly in the delegate count. Her victories have tended to be more limited in size, as even a 10% California victory is not helping her as much as Obama's 30% wins in Minnesota or Washington (though it appears that Puerto Rico could very well make or break either candidate in June, as the tradition of that contest is to award all 63 delegates at once... That could get them into trouble with the DNC, by the way, so this is another story line to follow).
Meanwhile, USA Today Gallup and the AP have two general election polls out, both showing Obama running narrowly better than Clinton against McCain:
- SUSA shows Mike Huckabee gaining on McCain, trailing 48% to 37%. That's a 19% improvement for Huck since 3 days ago -- the previous poll was taken immediately after Super Tuesday.
- In the Democratic race, Hillary Clinton appears ready to sink in yet another Southern state, trailing 40% to 38%.
- ARG has similar numbers, showing Obama up 56% to 38%. Interestingly, the two are within a few points in the 70% of registered Democrats, and Obama is creating this margin solely among independents.
- Among Republicans, ARG shows McCain up comfortably, 54% to 32%.
- Finally, a Mason-Dixon poll has Obama leading 53% to 37%. Among Republicans, it's 55-27 (though this poll was in the field at the same time as the first SUSA survey, the one that had McCain up 30%. So if Huckabee is indeed surging among Virginia conservatives, this poll would not pick it up).
- Among Democrats, Mason-Dixon has Obama leading 53% to 35%, ARG shows 55% to 37% and SUSA has it at 55% to 32%.
- McCain is up 54% to 23% in Mason-Dixon, 50% to 25% in ARG and 52% to 26% in SUSA.
The reason the GOP primary tomorrow is so important is that it could very well mark the end of Huckabee's resistance. McCain's problem appears to be that he is unable to win over conservative voters, and Huckabee won most of the Southern states of Super Tuesday and Louisiana on Saturday. If McCain crushes Huckabee tomorrow night (say by 20% or so) it is hard to see how Huckabee can justify his going forward if he has been trounced so decisively on his own turf (there are many reasons why Virginia is not exaclty Huckabee's home turf, as the demographics of the state allow McCain to win without relying on the staunchly conservative vote, but Huckabee does at some point have to enlarge his base a bit if he wants to extend this).
On the other hand, if this week-end's contests have given renewed hope to McCain's detractors that the front-runner is not necessarily a done deal, Huckabee could make this close by benefiting from a big conservative turnout. Without really threatening McCain's dominant position, that would be one more embarassing loss for the Arizona Senator that would force him to court the Right even more zealously.
In the Democratic race, the situation is very simple: Hillary Clinton can afford to lose, but she cannot afford to lose by these margins nor give up that many delegates for the 3rd election day in a row. She is starting to fall back rapidly in the delegate count. Her victories have tended to be more limited in size, as even a 10% California victory is not helping her as much as Obama's 30% wins in Minnesota or Washington (though it appears that Puerto Rico could very well make or break either candidate in June, as the tradition of that contest is to award all 63 delegates at once... That could get them into trouble with the DNC, by the way, so this is another story line to follow).
Meanwhile, USA Today Gallup and the AP have two general election polls out, both showing Obama running narrowly better than Clinton against McCain:
- USA/Today has Obama leading McCain 50% to 46%, while McCain edges out Clinton 49% to 48%.
- AP has Obama up McCain 48% to 42%, and Clinton edging him 46% to 45%.
7 Comments:
You don't ever have to worry about a Clinton. They can take care of themselves. Even if Obama takes these three by 2 to 1 and gets the lead for a while, this race is still up in the air. A few weeks is a long time. I bet those electability polls will swing pretty wildly for months. Obama would have seal up the lead by hundreds,as would Hillary, before a coronation could go forth. I hope they get more face time to project our Democratic platform nationally.
By Anonymous, At 11 February, 2008 18:21
It should be 60 - 38 in Virginia for Obama, It's listed as 40 - 38.
Thanks
By Anonymous, At 11 February, 2008 18:51
If Huckabee comes within 5% of McCain in any of these races, it will be an embarrassment to him.
As it is, it is clear his party is not behind him.
By Anonymous, At 11 February, 2008 22:35
"If Huckabee comes within 5% of McCain in any of these races, it will be an embarrassment to him."
In Maryland, yes, but not in Virginia. Because it's winner-take-all, if McCain wins Virginia by any margin, he'll still be smiling. But he needs to win Maryland by a solid margin (which seems extremely likely) to look good.
Will tomorrow be Mike Huckabee's last stand? Stay tuned . . .
By Anonymous, At 11 February, 2008 23:14
My take on electability:
Polls have shown that despite supporting their candidate in the primaries, the Democrats would still overwhelmingly vote for either Sen. Obama or Sen. Clinton. Basically, Democrats WILL vote for Democrats in the general election despite the ferocity of these primaries. However, the real difference is in who the independents that are voting. Most of these primaries are open or semi-open, and the results have shown that Independents flock towards Sen. Obama. There's obviously also the Gallup national polls, but this is just another piece of the puzzle to look at.
By wvaaaa, At 12 February, 2008 01:57
"In Maryland, yes, but not in Virginia. Because it's winner-take-all, if McCain wins Virginia by any margin, he'll still be smiling."
Even if he wins all of the delegates, it will still look bad. You will see news cycle after news cycle dedicated to why McCain can't close the deal. What will he need to do to win over conservatives.
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