Update on the February 5th delegate allocation: Who won more Super Tuesday delegates?
Most estimations of the Super Tuesday results have shown Obama getting a few more delegates out of February 5th. My Friday morning state-by-state breakdown showed Clinton ahead by 23 pledged delegates, with 70 still outstanding, mostly from Obama states.
A look at the websites of the state parties has allowed me to allocate the outstanding delegates in three states (check the full updated 02/05 delegate count here):
So Clinton looks like she might emerge with the biggest share of February 5th's pledged delegates, contrary to most media reports. This is due to California in particular. In his oft-cited analysis the night of Super Tuesday, NBC's Chuck Todd came out with a 4 delegate lead for Obama but that was by giving Clinton a 34 delegate lead out of the Golden State (and Todd said that was a generous estimate). It now looks like Clinton got 44 delegates more than Obama in California, which explains the possible reversal here. I will update the delegate count page with numbers from CO, IL and GA as they are available.
The delegate count will obviously be profoundly affected by tonight's results, and Obama will have a pledged delegate lead after tonight thanks to his triumphs in NE, WA and LA. But the question of who won more delegates on 02/05 remains interesting.
Meanwhile, it is interesting to look at the delegate allocation mechanisms a bit more closely, starting with Alabama. Obama won that state 56% to 42% but only has a 2 delegate lead, 27 to 25. And that certainly deserves an explanation. In my Super Tuesday preview of last Tuesday, I explained why the problem of even/odd districts could lead to some strange delegate math (refer to that page if you don't remember how the odd/even delegate math works). And despite losing the statewide vote by 14%, Clinton tied Obama among district-level delegates, 17 to 17:
A look at the websites of the state parties has allowed me to allocate the outstanding delegates in three states (check the full updated 02/05 delegate count here):
- In Alabama, the four remaining delegates spit equally 2-2, for a final breakdown of 27 Obama, 25 Clinton (an explanation of how this can be so close is provided below).
- In Tennessee, the four remaining delegates also split equally, for a final breakdown of 40-28.
- In New York, the final outstanding delegate went to Clinton, for a final breakdown of 139 to 91.
So Clinton looks like she might emerge with the biggest share of February 5th's pledged delegates, contrary to most media reports. This is due to California in particular. In his oft-cited analysis the night of Super Tuesday, NBC's Chuck Todd came out with a 4 delegate lead for Obama but that was by giving Clinton a 34 delegate lead out of the Golden State (and Todd said that was a generous estimate). It now looks like Clinton got 44 delegates more than Obama in California, which explains the possible reversal here. I will update the delegate count page with numbers from CO, IL and GA as they are available.
The delegate count will obviously be profoundly affected by tonight's results, and Obama will have a pledged delegate lead after tonight thanks to his triumphs in NE, WA and LA. But the question of who won more delegates on 02/05 remains interesting.
Meanwhile, it is interesting to look at the delegate allocation mechanisms a bit more closely, starting with Alabama. Obama won that state 56% to 42% but only has a 2 delegate lead, 27 to 25. And that certainly deserves an explanation. In my Super Tuesday preview of last Tuesday, I explained why the problem of even/odd districts could lead to some strange delegate math (refer to that page if you don't remember how the odd/even delegate math works). And despite losing the statewide vote by 14%, Clinton tied Obama among district-level delegates, 17 to 17:
- The district with the biggest African-American population (AL-07) split its 7 delegates 5-2. But two of the three other districts with large black populations (AL-01 and AL-02) were four delegate districts. So despite winning those comfortably, Obama was forced into a 2-2 tie in both (he would have had to get more than 62% to get a 3-1 split).
- The state's least black district (the 4th) went for Clinton overwhelmingly, as the racial polarization of Southern primaries kicked in. The 4th was a five delegate district, and that allowed Clinton to get a wide 4-1 lead. Since Obama was not able to open up a gap among the parts of the state that strongly voted for him, he had to settle for a 17-17 split.
- The statewide allocation went 10-8 for Obama.
3 Comments:
Maybe I'm just being dense, but how does this add up? You initially had Clinton with a 14-delegate edge. They split four outstanding delegates in Tennessee, four outstanding delegates in Alabama, and Clinton gets an additional delegate in New York. So that's a net gain of one for Clinton. So how does she go from a 14-delegate edge to a 24-delegate edge. Shouldn't she only have a 15-delegate edge? Or am I missing something?
By Anonymous, At 10 February, 2008 00:04
It looks like a long road to go. Contrary to the punditry,I think this is an excellent opportunity for the Democratic platform to refine itself. A long fight brings out issues in detail, highlights weaknesses, and promotes the evolution of the winner's final proposals. I fully expect to have my concerns with both sides aired and resolved prior to the nomination. While I've spent time here exposing Obama's weaknesses and defending hatefully groundless attacks on Hillary, I have concerns about her platform weaknesses as well. (Since the Obama supporters haven't noticed them, I'll keep quiet.) Now that the delegate count is roughly equal, I hope the desperate attack dogs of Obama would reflect realistically about their own problems and how to solve them. Vitriolically assaulting Hillary doesn't diminish them,it just delays the inevitable swiftboating. We'll see.
By Anonymous, At 10 February, 2008 10:58
fred app,
Indeed I put down the wrong number in the first paragraph. I had Clinton's lead at 23 on Friday morning.
By Taniel, At 10 February, 2008 11:31
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