Will Obama really put the South in play?
SUSA released polls from Alabama and Kentucky today, matching up the main Republicans against the main Democrats. First, it is important to note that all the Democrats significantly cut into the Republican margins in this very Republican states (Bush won Alabama by 25 points in 2004, and Kentucky by 20).
In other bad news for the Obama campaign Marc Ambinder reports today that Clinton is developing an aura of invincibility which is pushing donors towards her in a sort of massive bandwagon effect and making them now think he is not worth their time.
Also today, Obama had to face the awkward news cycle of Jesse Jackson blasting him for "acting like he's white" for being "too tepid" in his criticism of the events in Jena, LA. Jackson came out with a statement later in the day re-affirming his support of Obama's campaign and said he did not recall saying that Obama was acting white, without fully denying the quote.
- In Alabama, Clinton loses by 11 against Giuliani, and reaches 41%. She loses by 13 against Thompson, but only by one against Romney.
- Edwards does better than Clinton: He loses by 10 against Guiliani and by 12 against Thompson, but wins by 6 against Romney (45-39%). While it amazing that a Democrat is not only competitive but winning in Alabama, there are about 8-9% more who say they are undecided in matchups involving Romney, and these will presumably Republicans who will break for Romney once they get to know him.
- Obama, however, does much much worse: He loses by 27% against Giuliani, 26% against Thompson and 17% against Romney.
- Internal numbers tell much of the story: Against Giuliani, Obama wins 19% of the white vote (against 71%). Clinton wins 30% (against 60%). They both win the same percentage of the black vote. Clearly, Obama's weakness comes from Alabama's white population racist reluctance to vote for a black candidate.
- Edwards does incredibly well: He loses by only 7 against Giuliani, but leads in a statistical tie against Thompson (by 1) and leads Romney by a stunning 10 point margin!
- Clinton loses against both Giuliani and Thompson (by 10 points and 5 points) and ties Romney at 46%.
- Obama loses against Giuliani by 18, against Thompson by 17 and against Romney by 2.
In other bad news for the Obama campaign Marc Ambinder reports today that Clinton is developing an aura of invincibility which is pushing donors towards her in a sort of massive bandwagon effect and making them now think he is not worth their time.
Also today, Obama had to face the awkward news cycle of Jesse Jackson blasting him for "acting like he's white" for being "too tepid" in his criticism of the events in Jena, LA. Jackson came out with a statement later in the day re-affirming his support of Obama's campaign and said he did not recall saying that Obama was acting white, without fully denying the quote.
3 Comments:
Alabama is the most extreme of southern states with Mississippi right next too it. How about trying Virginia, North and South Carolina, and Georgia.
By Anonymous, At 20 September, 2007 09:39
A few things:
1. Right now, when you look at polling, you can't think of Obama as a politician (he's not very well known). He's just a black man. So basically, you're polling an unknown black Democrat against an unknown Republican. Not going to do well in the South with that combo.
2. However - once general election dynamics take hold (people know more about him) I doubt he does well in the south, anyway. Both he and Clinton will turn off tons of DEMOCRATS and lead to some bad results in a few states, perhaps dragging down a couple of house seats.
3. Still, after general election dynamics start to take hold, Obama is probably the most electable (outside of a few racist states), for a couple of reasons: his charismatic personality and his post-partisan message. Edwards couldn't even IMPROVE (not carry) his ticket in his home state, and with a turn to the Left, one wonders how he would possible perform better in the south once general election dynamics take hold (again, right now, Edwards' polling reflects a southern sounding dude vs a generic Republican)
Finally, I'll say this: Doug Wilder won statewide election TWICE (Lt. Gov and Gov) in a southern state nearly a generation ago. Thats a lot of time for racists to die...
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