Obama campaign hits Clinton left and right
Sen. Clinton says she was merely voting for more diplomacy, not war with Iran. If this has a familiar ring, it should. Five years after the original vote for war in Iraq, Sen. Clinton has argued that her vote was not for war -- it was for diplomacy, or inspections. But all of us knew what the Senate was debating in 2002. John Edwards has renounced his own vote for the war, and he should be applauded for his candor. After all, we didn't need to authorize a war in order to have United Nations weapons inspections. No one thought Congress was debating diplomacy. No newspaper headlines ran on Oct. 12, 2002, reading, "Congress authorizes diplomacy." This was a vote to authorize war, and without that vote, there would have been no war.
America needs a leader who will make the right judgments about matters as grave as war and peace, and America needs a leader who will be straight with them. When I spoke out against going to war in Iraq in 2002, I knew that I was putting my political career on the line. Going to war was popular; so was President Bush. But I felt strongly that a war in Iraq would lead to an open-ended and destructive occupation of Iraq, and weaken us in the fight against al-Qaida in Afghanistan. And I felt a responsibility to say so. Now, the Senate has once again voted for an amendment that goes out of its way to draw connections between distinct threats, and that replaces judicious policy-making with unnecessary saber-rattling. And once again, we hear that it is not really a vote for more war, it is a vote for more diplomacy.
This is obviously a very powerful argument. The 2002 war vote has haunted Clinton for years, and she has never apologized for it, betting that primary voters will not hold it against her. Obama's strongest argument has always been his initial opposition to the war -- so he is trying to capitalize on that. However, there are huge problems with his approach. The first is that Obama did not take part of the Iran vote -- so that it seems disingenuous for him to now hit Clinton for being the only Democrat supporting it. Where was Obama if this vote was that important?
In other words, Iran engages in terrorist activities... just not in Iraq. Labeling part of the Iranian army a terrorist group does not seem problematic to Obama -- does he really think the Bush Administration will need a connection to Iraq? Connecting Iran to the War on Terror certainly seems enough.
Obama also came out with a new ad today playing on the same themes but emphasizing the Iraq War vote of 2002. Obama does not name anyone but names, but he clearly differentiates himself from the rest of the field -- rather effective, and it could give many in the Democratic base second thoughts about supporting John Edwards or Hillary Clinton.
A last controversy is brewing up on Clinton's interview with the Washington Post yesterday in which the WaPo claimed she was "vague on torture." Obama immediately jumped on the story, and Clinton is pushing back saying the WaPo did not include her quote that we must have a "bright line" against torture and she released the full transcript of the interview. But that Clinton is even allowing torture to become an issue in the Democratic primary is very problematic.
3 Comments:
"Obama said he would have voted against the measure but didn't because he was campaigning in New Hampshire at the time."
Dosen't take much to see then, that Obama favored the campaign trail over voting against legislation that vehemently object to, to the extent of assailing his opponent.
If voting AGAINST the measure meant so much, he should have put his presence on the hill above his presence on the campaign trail.
Maybe then, his statement would carry weight.
By Anonymous, At 11 October, 2007 17:55
regardless if obama did not participate in the vote over iran.he is still going to win our nomination.it is unfortunate this is the time for a new era in the political realms and the man for this time is obama.it is written all over this planet earth.let those who have eyes see and be blessed for their vision amen
By Anonymous, At 21 October, 2007 22:26
For the 1 millionth time, Obama is not finding fault with the designation of that organization as a terrorist organization. To be enlightened and rather than cite stupid blogs, listen to him at:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oSeg_4drlaU
In that video you will see he acknowledges that the revolutionary guard supports terrorism, no doubt. His issue is the portion that states that: "transition(s) and structure" our "military presence in Iraq" to counter the threat from Iran, and states that it is "a critical national interest of the United States" to prevent the Iranian government from exerting influence inside Iraq."
To read about that legislation go to: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_110_1.htm
Now, with regards to the bill that he co-sponsored. There is a MAJOR (legally, politically and diplomatically) difference if the US Congress (or Senate in this case) designates an organization as a terrorist organization and when the Department of State does the same thing. With the former, there is powerful legislation that immediately comes into effect, whereas, a designation by the Dept of State merely serves to put pressure and lacks the powers that a Senate designation has.
A senate designation for instance per the Oct. 2002 AUMF: congress conceded in the AUMF bush's inherent constitutional power to attack terrorist organizations. Accordingly, by designating the Iranian military "terrorists", congress has granted bush unilateral authority to undertake military action, without congressional approval.
Needless to say a designation by the Dept of State does not grant the president such unilateral power.
Don't you see a difference between these pieces of legislation?
There are millions of organizations that support and/or engage in terror that are recognized by the US Department of State in its Annual Reports on Country Conditions (check the DOS website), but the US Senate does not go out of its way to declare ALL of them as terrorist organizations. There are many issues or interests at stake. Diplomacy is one of them. Another is what does the US have to gain or lose. It is not for no reason that the recent call to declare the Armenian murders as genocide has collapsed in spite of the strong California Armenian lobbying and in spite of the fact that when the issue came up, it was a sure thing it will pass. What happened? Turkey recalled it's ambassador, the US president issued a statement talking of how passing such legislation will anger Turkey and Turkey will engage in Iraq, making the whole Iraq situation bad. Some congressmen have backed out of it all. However, if you read US Department of State reports, you'll read of Armenian genocide. So you see, it's not an easy thing for the US Congress to make such a designation. May be in a country where all powers are centralized in the president, such a designation won't have an effect, but you know in diplomacy and international politics you should know what branch of government in the other country has power to do what. It is not for no reason that the Syrian president was glad to meet with Pelosi. He did so because he is aware that the the House has specific powers too. Say for instance the US sent governor richard to Syria to do "good offices" work, you think the president of Syria would agree to meet a low-ranking official like that? no
By Anonymous, At 22 October, 2007 11:40
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