Friday polls: Obama where he wants to be in Ohio and Texas, McCain looking strong in Florida
Whether or not the ad war is any reason for this, Obama is continually improving his position in March 4th polls. Keep in mind, Clinton will have to prove these polls wrong by winning both states and do so by big margins. First, two polls from Ohio:
McCain got even better news with the release of a Mason-Dixon general election poll from Florida:
- A new Zogby poll shows a toss-up, in one of the closest polls from the state we have seen yet: Clinton is only ahead 44% to 42%.
- ARG confirms that the gap is rapidly closing, showing a 50% to 45% margin in a poll taken over the past two days. Five days ago, ARG showed a 49% to 39% gap.
- Update: Rasmussen confirms that Clinton has lost her Ohio lead, showing her ahead 47% to 45%. That's down from a 5% lead on Sunday night and a 9% lead last week.
- Zogby shows Obama relatively comfortably ahead, 48% to 42%.
- ARG has Obama up 51% to 44%, which is actually a one point improvement for Hillary (which is saying a lot). Clinton's lead among women (+9) and Hispanic (55-41) is much smaller than it should be, going a long way towards explaining her Texan troubles.
- Meanwhile, the BELO Texas tracking poll shows Obama taking the lead for the first time, albeit only 46% to 45%.
McCain got even better news with the release of a Mason-Dixon general election poll from Florida:
- McCain leads Obama 47% to 37% and he leads Clinton 49% to 40%.
- McCain posts strong numbers among Republicans, while both Democrats (particularly Obama) are much weaker among independents.
13 Comments:
The lose of Florida as a competitive state would be offset by adding Virginia and Missouri to the Swing State status and removing states like Michigan and Minnesota from competition.
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Anonymous, At
29 February, 2008 12:14
Agreed - FL is not essential. The Dems take Iowa and Ohio and that equals 27EV's (same as FL) never mind Virginia, Colorado and Missouri as other potential gains.
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Anonymous, At
29 February, 2008 12:52
Other possible gains include Nevada, Colorado, and New Mexico.
And Obama puts New Hampshire out of play, which is important.
Don't get me wrong, the Democrats would rather win Florida, and they should be close enough to make the GOP spend money there, but it is not essential that they win or are even close.
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Anonymous, At
29 February, 2008 13:15
You need to remember that Hillary would basically be conceeding Nevada and Colorado to McCain.
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Anonymous, At
29 February, 2008 17:55
You guys are dreamers. The slime machine is just getting started. I just don't see any evidence that Virginia or Missouri will be any easier for Obama to pick!! After all in the Missouri democratic primary, a better environment for Obama, he did not win one single rural county. Actually, out of Kansas City, Saint Louis and Saint Louis County, Obama did not win one single jurisdiction. I live in Virginia and I see Mark Warner doing very well in the senate election, but you have got to like Senator McCain chances in the Old Dominium. All these rosy prospects for Obama in November are much overstated. In 1988 George H.W. Bush started 17 points behind Dukakis. In 1976 Gerald Ford started 33 points behind Jimmy Carter. Bush defeated Dukakis, and Carter barely edged Ford by less than 2 percentage points. Obama is starting this race even or perhaps slightly behind McCain. What can possibly make anybody believe that a black pol from Chicago, with no foreign or military experience, barely 3 years of national legislative service, (please do not even say he was in the Illinois Senate, that is laughable), and a funny sounding name can do any better? I will be surprise if he manage 42% of the vote in November.
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Anonymous, At
29 February, 2008 21:55
"You guys are dreamers. The slime machine is just getting started..."
And what do you think will happen when they start attacking Obama for bing black? And they will. Obama has shown he is adept at deflecting attacks and the Republicans have shown they are tone-deaf when it comes to racial politics. They will attack Obama's middle name, but only those who still think Bush is doing a good job will fall for that. The independents will be turned off by such attacks and it will help Obama.
If anything the Clinton campaign has shown us that a misguided attack is worse than no attack at all.
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Anonymous, At
29 February, 2008 22:11
OH PLEASEEEEEEEEE. This is laughable! Do not compare the micro cosmos of a democratic primary with the general universe of a national election. Race bating will not work in a democratic primary because the African American vote is such a large percentage of the democratic vote in so many of the southern and eastern states. Right or wrong almost any line of attack used by Hillary against Obama was labeled as racist, in effect taking race pretty much out of the contest. In the general election that is not going to happen. McCain does not have to win Minnesota, he need to win Ohio, Florida and Missouri. All those red state that held caucuses and were won by Obama, well, guess what, outside of Iowa, he will not win one of those states. And Iowa is not a certainty for Obama. McCain polls well there, a dead heat. You underestimate the capacity of the American electorate to succumb to the lowest common denominator when it comes to racial wedge issues. I do not see any evidence that this is going to be any different in 2008. a painful lesson, since this was a unique opportunity for democrats to control all branches of government. And we just allow the crazy left to highjack the party. I am sitting this one out, for the first time since I turned 18. And I have the nagging suspicion I am not the only one.
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Anonymous, At
29 February, 2008 22:36
Do you remember the last time Democrats controlled everything in 1993 and 1994? Nothing got done and Democrats lost Congress for the next decade. I, as a Democrat, don't feel like having to waste all of our resources defending the Clinton's again while the party rots.
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Anonymous, At
29 February, 2008 22:53
Oh that is brilliant!! Lest see, as a democrat, do you see the need of having a democrat as president naming the next two, perhaps three, justices to the Supreme Court? Or the naming judges to the federal judiciary? As a democrat, do you see the need to electing a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, so we can pass health care reform? As a democrat do you see the need to have a democrat as president to stop the adventurism of the neocons that control the white house today? As a democrat, do you thing we need to return to good governance and fiduciary responsibility? Because as a democrat, that is why we vote, and try to win elections, because……..ELECTION MATTERS!!!!! I propose to you the following paradox: nominate Obama, oh feel really good, and go and loose in November. The party will not rot, what ever is it that that means. Purity? Mundane concerns like, win elections and enact agendas, will not be allow to corrupt the tender sensitivities of the enlighted latte liberals!! Now that is so cute. Losers by any name!
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Anonymous, At
29 February, 2008 23:22
Barack has out manuevered, out organized, out hussled, out spent and out smarted the Clinton machine and he will do the same to McCain and the repubs this Nov. McCain is too old and this will become apparent all too soon. The GE is 8 months away and as Obama said from the beginning "this race is a marathon, not a sprint". As a person who has donated several hundred dollars to his primary campaign, I am more than willing to double down my bet.
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