3.26.2008

Genearal election thoughts: The Democratic dilemma

As the primaries drag on, a question that has long been haunting Democratic operatives is how much will the Clinton-Obama showdown damage the party's eventual nominee. Will the candidate have time to repair the animosity within the party? And will the prolonged exposure (one might say monopoly) they have on political coverage right now (especially in a crucial swing state like Pennsylvania) help them build the infrastructure and support they will need in the fall or will it exasperate voters months before they are supposed to paying attention?

Gallup released a poll today that shows some worrisome news for both campaigns: 28% of Clinton supporters say they will vote McCain in November if Obama is the nominee, and 19% of Obama supporters say the same if Clinton is their party's candidate. While many people think that Obama supporters will be more bitter if the election is taken away from them, all the evidence for now confirms Gallup's finding to the contrary. Obama's weakness among Democrats in general election polls has been documented. But keep in mind that if Clinton wins the nomination she will probably have done so despite a pledged delegate lead for Obama -- and that could lead to many of his supporters being more bitter than they are now.

Leaving aside the question of who is better capable of unifying the party, it is clear that both candidates have a problem: 28% and 19% are both too high cross-over rates for either candidate to hope to be strong against McCain. Thankfully for Democrats, primary tensions tend to dissipate once nominations are over, and there is no reason to think that the cross-over numbers will be this high come September; but if the nomination fight continues all the way to August, all bets are off.

Clearly, however, Democratic voters are not ready to let the primaries end. A new Rasmussen poll shows that 22% of Democrats want Clinton to withdraw... the same exact proportion that want Obama to drop out. But Rasmussen's other poll for the day -- a general election poll from Missouri -- confirms that things are not looking up for Democrats right now:

  • John McCain comfortably leads both potential opponents, 50% to 41% against Hillary and 53% to 38% against Obama.
Missouri might have been trending red in the past few cycles but 2006 showed that a Democrat can win and many polls taken in the past few months showed Democrats leading or at least very competitive in the state. This type of poll showing McCain jumping ahead in purple state Democrats were looking to put in play is not good news for Democrats.

Meanwhile, today's Rasmussen daily tracking shows McCain up double-digits nationally for the first time, leading Obama 51% to 41%. He is ahead of Clinton 50% to 43%.

So is there no reason to hope that a prolonged primary fight could be good for the party? There certainly is, and here is the evidence. I have long argued that a 6 week battle in Pennsylvania would help the Democratic nominee in the fall, first of all because he/she will build a network and increase the party's visibility. Now comes word that there has been a dramatic increase in the number of registered Democrats which has now reached an all-time record. More than 4 million Pennsylvanians are now Democrats, a 4% increase from last year's election, and this is directly correlated to the primary: The record was reached on the last day to change your party registration and vote in the April 22nd primary.

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  • I tend to agree with much of this post and feel the Dems will be better off in the fall for the reasons stated and some others as well. Clinton's negitive throw the sink approach will vet Obama and toughen him up a bit for the truly nasty fall campaign (think Harold Ford on steriods). And on the other hand McCain is proving to be a pretty awful campaigner. He speaking style is wooden and he is a poor debator. The "my friends" line already sounds as insincere as Bush's "it's hard work" comment. He also lacks the funds for a big media push and will have to rely on very negitive 527's, which he will then have to disown. But the biggest factors will be the age difference and Obama's calmness next to McCain's barely hidden distain for people with opposing views.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, At 26 March, 2008 12:58  

  • My opinon is that in the current moment, the protracted primary is hurting both democrats and greatly helping McCain, there is no way that even Rasmussen would show McCain so ahead of the democrats if Clinton and Obama were not locked in a bitter primary. If democrat primary leads to a brokered convention, then Democratic chances are severely hampered, and if Clinton gets the nomination, then bar a total collaspe of Obama, look for a double digit win in the genereal by McCain. However, if superdelegates agree to Tennesse governor Phil Brendensen's plan to all at once vote for a candiate in June after the primaries are over, then I think the damage will be healed and the lenghty primary will probably have been good in boosting Democratic enthusaism in retrospect.

    On another note, it is proably true that Cliton's base of white working class voters are more likely to vote republican than Obama's base of blacks and upper-class whites but they proably could just decide to either stay at home or vote for Ralph Nader, which isn't expressed in gallup's poll.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, At 26 March, 2008 14:14  

  • If the race is not concluded by June then there will be only a few (50-100) truly undecided superdelegates. A meeting such as Gov. Brendenson's suggests would be a media circus and make matters worse. Just think of the Florida revote debate. If the Clinton negitive campaingning continues then the superdelegates will continue to slowly bleed to Obama and he will, if he makes no serious errors, be the prohibitive candidate.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, At 26 March, 2008 14:58  

  • Eventually, Obama will win the nomination
    That is guarenteed
    Once the general election is under way, Obama will beat McCain

    100 years of war ? a third Bush term for the economy ?
    Maybe not.....
    Obama '08

    PS:
    Campaign Diaries is great
    Thanks for the information

    By Anonymous Anonymous, At 26 March, 2008 17:37  

  • Obama isn't winning anything....he's done! You all can spin it anyway you want....Obama is either done in the primaries or GE....Clinton supporters won't vote for him! Period.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, At 26 March, 2008 21:30  

  • Of course Clinton supporters will vote for Obama - first it is only a minority (larger than expected but still aminority) so 72% of Clinton supporters even now will vote Obama. There will be Democrats who vote in November who did not vote inthe primaries for whatever reason.
    There is a large number of the population who are independent/unaffliated and getting support from them is crucial - it is what gave the Dems their victory in the 2006 mid-terms (breaking 2:1 for the Dems, as opposed to the more usual 50:50).

    The priamry process will be finished by early June at the latest (early May still a possibility depending how PA, NC and IN go). All the data will be available in June so why waste 2.5 months until the convention discussing it.

    Also it only requires a few of the remiaing superdelegates, prehaps 50 to move over to Obama - therefore no need for a meeting.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, At 27 March, 2008 08:45  

  • 28% of Clinton supporters who won't vote for Obama IS NOT A MINORITY....add in about another 28% of Repubs & Indep (who he needs to win)and you have 56% of the population who WON"T VOTE FOR HIM! This is RIGHT IN LINE WITH HIS UNFAVORABLE RATING OF 56%.

    To make up for the above losses, he needs to get at least 45% of the White vote & 70% of the Latino vote across the country....psst...this ain't happening!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, At 27 March, 2008 18:40  

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