tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post8357256209329444710..comments2023-11-05T02:58:27.295-05:00Comments on Campaign Diaries: Prepare for the general: DNC blasts McCain while Obama clings to his postpoliticsTanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17333289018970623022noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-92179806576027093442015-11-15T22:22:45.698-05:002015-11-15T22:22:45.698-05:00oakley pas cher, nike air max, true religion jeans...<a href="http://www.lunette-oakley-pascher.fr/" rel="nofollow">oakley pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.nike--airmax.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">nike air max</a>, <a href="http://www.true-religion-jeans.in.net/" rel="nofollow">true religion jeans</a>, <a href="http://www.niketnrequin-pascher.fr/" rel="nofollow">tn pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.coachoutletstoreonline.jp.net/" rel="nofollow">coach outlet</a>, <a href="http://www.nikeblazerpaschere.fr/" rel="nofollow">nike blazer</a>, <a href="http://www.sac-vanessa-bruno.fr/" rel="nofollow">vanessa bruno</a>, <a href="http://www.the-north-face.fr/" rel="nofollow">north face</a>, <a href="http://www.coachfactory-outletonline.in.net/" rel="nofollow">coach factory outlet</a>, <a href="http://www.polo-lacoste-pascher.fr/" rel="nofollow">lacoste pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.coachoutlet.jp.net/" rel="nofollow">coach outlet</a>, <a href="http://www.truereligionsale.in.net/" rel="nofollow">true religion jeans</a>, <a href="http://www.hollisteruk.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">hollister</a>, <a href="http://www.rayban-sunglasses.me.uk/" rel="nofollow">ray ban uk</a>, <a href="http://www.nike-freerun.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">nike free run uk</a>, <a href="http://www.abercrombieand-fitch.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">abercrombie and fitch</a>, <a href="http://www.vanspas-cher.fr/" rel="nofollow">vans pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.thenorth--face.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">north face</a>, <a href="http://www.poloralphlauren-pascher.fr/" rel="nofollow">ralph lauren pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.nikeairmaxinc.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">nike air max</a>, <a href="http://www.sac-burberry-pascher.fr/" rel="nofollow">burberry</a>, <a href="http://www.lululemonoutlet--canada.ca/" rel="nofollow">lululemon</a>, <a href="http://www.airjordanpas-cher.fr/" rel="nofollow">air jordan pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.michaelkors-outlet-canada.ca/" rel="nofollow">michael kors</a>, <a href="http://www.truereligionoutlets.in.net/" rel="nofollow">true religion jeans</a>, <a href="http://www.katespade-handbags.in.net/" rel="nofollow">kate spade handbags</a>, <a href="http://www.nike-roshe-run.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">nike roshe</a>, <a href="http://www.ralphlauren-outlet.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">ralph lauren uk</a>, <a href="http://www.nike-roshe-run.fr/" rel="nofollow">nike roshe run</a>, <a href="http://www.nike-airmax-pas-cher.fr/" rel="nofollow">nike air max</a>, <a href="http://www.louboutin-pas-chere.fr/" rel="nofollow">louboutin pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.lunette-rayban-pas-cher.fr/" rel="nofollow">ray ban pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.newbalancesoldes.fr/" rel="nofollow">new balance pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.michaelkorshandbags-uk.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">michael kors</a>, <a href="http://www.converse-pas-cher.fr/" rel="nofollow">converse pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.coachpurse.in.net/" rel="nofollow">coach purses</a>, <a href="http://www.nikeair-max.fr/" rel="nofollow">air max</a>, <a href="http://www.sachermes.fr/" rel="nofollow">hermes</a>, <a href="http://www.sac--longchamps.fr/" rel="nofollow">sac longchamp</a>, <a href="http://www.scarpehogan--outlet.it/" rel="nofollow">hogan</a>, <a href="http://www.nikefreerun.fr/" rel="nofollow">nike free</a>, <a href="http://www.truereligioninc.in.net/" rel="nofollow">true religion outlet</a>, <a href="http://www.timberland-paschere.fr/" rel="nofollow">timberland</a>, <a href="http://www.nikeair-force.fr/" rel="nofollow">air force</a>, <a href="http://www.sac-guesspascher.fr/" rel="nofollow">sac guess</a>, <a href="http://www.sac-longchamp-pas-cher.fr/" rel="nofollow">longchamp pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.michaelkors-outlet.ca/" rel="nofollow">michael kors</a>, <a href="http://www.hollister-abercrombiefitch.fr/" rel="nofollow">hollister pas cher</a>, <a href="http://www.mulberryhandbags-outlet.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">mulberry</a>, <a href="http://www.sac-michaelkors-pascher.fr/" rel="nofollow">michael kors</a>oakleyseshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02221561593432696548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-61792084198069114112008-04-28T14:04:00.000-04:002008-04-28T14:04:00.000-04:00It is more compelling for democrats to reference 1...<I>It is more compelling for democrats to reference 100 years than to simply say McCain won't set a timetable becuase it's simply more emotional.</I><BR/><BR/>But it opens the door to a truthful counter-ad saying "See, the Democrats are lying to you again! And we have proof! You can't trust them!" And if people conclude, rightly, that the ad is dishonest, then why will they believe the DNC when it's actually telling the truth on issues, where the public actually agrees with Democratic positions?<BR/><BR/>The DNC could have run an ad saying "No timetable. No end in sight. And trillions of dollars on our national credit card, pushing us deeper into debt. Irresponsible in every sense, and more of the same Bush policy. It's time for a change." That's just about as strong an ad. And they wouldn't be open to accusations of lying. And then maybe people will believe Democrats are telling the truth on other issues too.<BR/><BR/>I just don't think going for some marginal emotional impact is worth the more substantial loss in credibility. I understand the DNC's position, but I think they're wrong. And I'm going to contact the DNC and tell them.dsimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997716795133693794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-27125832029919058382008-04-28T13:42:00.000-04:002008-04-28T13:42:00.000-04:00I guess it could be easier to put down a more trut...I guess it could be easier to put down a more truthful ad, such as one saying that McCain has no intention of pressuring Iraqis instead of one referecing his "100 years" remark. But unfornatnly politics these days are alot about gaffes and making mistakes that would be innocent or minor in other contexts much bigger in the political world. It is more compelling for democrats to reference 100 years than to simply say McCain won't set a timetable becuase it's simply more emotional. As long as politicans (not just in USA but throughout the world) merciless pounce on small mistakes, you will see mischaractarizations such as this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-42307702346800609052008-04-28T13:26:00.000-04:002008-04-28T13:26:00.000-04:00I agree that the DNC shouldn't put put up the ad b...<I>I agree that the DNC shouldn't put put up the ad but in the same token, the GOP shouldn't be putting up ads referencing Rev. Wright either, yet it is happening by some outside and state GOP groups and it seems like McCain is changing his mind about using Wright as a wedge issue after he said Obama legitmized it as a politcal issue on Fox News Sunday.</I><BR/><BR/>I agree that people should talk about legitimate issues. But there are legitimate ways of doing so. I can't believe that the DNC couldn't have put together an equally if not more compelling ad without sacrificing Democratic credibility.<BR/><BR/>Democrats won't be able to complain about remarks being taken out of context if they do the exact same thing. If they engage in that game, the public gets lost in trivia. If they keep attention on the real issues without fudging the facts, I think they'll do far better in November.<BR/><BR/>Trust is important. The DNC shouldn't throw it away when they don't have to to make their point.dsimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997716795133693794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-79324393979205242602008-04-28T12:40:00.000-04:002008-04-28T12:40:00.000-04:00Dsimon I agree that the DNC shouldn't put put up t...Dsimon I agree that the DNC shouldn't put put up the ad but in the same token, the GOP shouldn't be putting up ads referencing Rev. Wright either, yet it is happening by some outside and state GOP groups and it seems like McCain is changing his mind about using Wright as a wedge issue after he said Obama legitmized it as a politcal issue on Fox News Sunday. Also I think the 100 years remark is probably more fair in terns of attacking policies rather than attacking personal character and brining up race that the GOP Wright ads are putting up. True, McCain didn't mean that USA forces would be actively fighting a insurcency for 100 years, but it is clear that he has absolutly no timetable for when the Iraqis, not the USA, have to do the counter-insurgency work so there is some truth to it, even if its only a half truth, and as I said its a legitmate foreign policy issue that needs to be discussed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-63972475020642460082008-04-28T10:35:00.001-04:002008-04-28T10:35:00.001-04:00completely agree with you dsimon. Obama's mandate ...completely agree with you dsimon. Obama's mandate position is more libertarian in allowing people (without children) to choose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-10313140321685232802008-04-28T10:35:00.000-04:002008-04-28T10:35:00.000-04:00it still remains to be seen how much the DNC is wi...<I>it still remains to be seen how much the DNC is willing to spend to air this ad.</I><BR/><BR/>I hope the DNC spends zero money on the referenced ad. I think it's terrible.<BR/><BR/>The ad deliberately takes McCain's "100 years" remark out of context, and those at the DNC must know it. If Democrats are to gain the trust of the American people--and retain the right to call Republicans to task when Democratic remarks are deliberately taken out of context--they should run tough but fair ads on the issues. It would be easy to do a different, hard-hitting ad on McCain's Iraq position: no timetable, indefinite military commitment, and no courage to ask Americans to pay for it. But the "100 years" commercial is just a cheap shot.<BR/><BR/>If moderates see through it, they'll ask "If you're not telling the truth here, how do we know you're telling the truth elsewhere?" Credibility is an attribute that's hard to gain and easily lost. With so many legitimate avenues to attack McCain, I don't think Democrats help themselves by taking an illegitimate one.<BR/><BR/>And it certainly doesn't inspire me to make any donations to the DNC.dsimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997716795133693794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-51544690555025019552008-04-28T10:26:00.000-04:002008-04-28T10:26:00.000-04:00It is amazing that Wallace and others can insinuat...It is amazing that Wallace and others can insinuate that Obama is "a creature or a captive of the left" when he and Clinton's differences on most issues are very narrow. Their biggest difference is whether there should be a mandate to have health insurance, and Obama has the more conservative position.<BR/><BR/>The truth is that neither candidate is left-wing. It would be refreshing if those who accused Clinton or Obama as being "too liberal" occasionally backed up their assertions with the candidates' actual policy positions.dsimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997716795133693794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-42665473645359792892008-04-28T08:35:00.000-04:002008-04-28T08:35:00.000-04:00I don't see how Haillry can use ithis against Obam...I don't see how Haillry can use ithis against Obama. One of her most senior advisor (Terry McAufflie - ex DNC chairman) has recorded pro Fox News advertising spots that tout how "fair and balanced" they are. So the Clinton campaign cannot complain.<BR/><BR/>Kos etc also cannot complain because Clinton recently came out and said they and other "activists" are just pains in the neck and should disappear. I think that pretty much sealed their support for Obama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-80186829805985983782008-04-28T08:17:00.000-04:002008-04-28T08:17:00.000-04:00Anon 8:08 I disagree. I do not think thta confront...Anon 8:08 I disagree. I do not think thta confrontation is necessary in order to make for a good president. I'm glad that he went on Fox News Sunday as Chris Wallace is one of more balanced people working for Fox, althrough he still has a conservative lean. I'm sure that the liberal blogs will be angry and maybe Clinton will try to use the interview against Obama, but in general I don't think that this will hurt him. McCain is doing the exact thing by projecting himself as a moderate rather than a conservative so he can get the votes of conservative/moderate democrats and independents. However McCain has been moving more to the right recently, likely in an effort to hold more onto his base. An unfortanly for those like me who feel this way, the label liberal has a negative connotation in this country, unlike conservative which generally as a postive connotation and moderate having the best of them all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-42793595467366389532008-04-28T08:08:00.000-04:002008-04-28T08:08:00.000-04:00Obviously he is angry at the Democratic party beca...Obviously he is angry at the Democratic party because he feels entitled. Now the base that got him here is too far left? I think this shows a weakness in his character and another indication of how many constituencies he'd dump overboard if elected. Fox news made a fool out of him and they will use his interview against him. It's the same ploy Moyers used to get Wright out there spilling his guts for an hour. The end is near for the Obama fantasy. The presidency is a job that requires confrontation everyday. Stating that he's not a confrontational person is an admission of ineligibility. I don't think that's a smart stance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-17267376683726587022008-04-28T07:00:00.000-04:002008-04-28T07:00:00.000-04:00I watched the interview. Good, solid work on Obama...I watched the interview. Good, solid work on Obama's part. He did not let himself get entrapped, as FOX would have hoped.Statistikhengsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14117706673612587798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-90113022856824896312008-04-28T06:46:00.000-04:002008-04-28T06:46:00.000-04:00I do not see any harm in Obama going on Fox, from ...I do not see any harm in Obama going on Fox, from all accounts he acquitted himself well. He isn`t a confrontational person. We need to get used to that. He is not a Cheney or Clinton who attack first then listen to the person asking questions.<BR/><BR/>He is obvioulsy tring to get back to where he was in January as a person who would listen to all citizens of the USA and make the best decisions possible. Also does not hurt to court conservative Democrats who seems to be part of Hillary's base and IN and NC (plus WV and KT later) have some conservative Dems. Good politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-84929329833287318002008-04-28T06:43:00.000-04:002008-04-28T06:43:00.000-04:00I didn't see the interview but from what I have re...I didn't see the interview but from what I have read including the posting above it sounds like Obama was explaining that he listens to people of all political persuasions, sees where they are coming from and takes the issue from there. I do not think the left has much to worry about because Obama's voting record is solidly Democratic. <BR/><BR/>His quote about partisanship I think refers to the way some bills can come up for voting but they have amendments which can make you think twice about voting for the original measure. For example most people supported the stimulus package with the attendant rebate checks. Some politicians wanted to add amendments like extending the original Bush tax cuts. Of course that amendment would be opposed by many people (including Obama) so what do you do in that position - vote against the stimulus package to kill of the amendment but then be attacked as anti-stimulus??<BR/>This is the gotcha politics I think he wants us to move away from.<BR/><BR/>Have votes on individual issues rather than having votes with stuff added. That is what caused Kerry issues - the voting for the war before voting against it. All due to amendments added.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com