tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post6444303525704060913..comments2023-11-05T02:58:27.295-05:00Comments on Campaign Diaries: What do we do about the Washington primary?Tanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17333289018970623022noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-34050455621233000322008-02-18T16:32:00.001-05:002008-02-18T16:32:00.001-05:00the press will ignore this as they did in FL and ...the press will ignore this as they did in FL and MI because it doesn't matter and neither campaign is working it. oh and there will be ACTUAL results in WI and HI that night.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16906030950390088716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-11199616232144618192008-02-18T16:32:00.000-05:002008-02-18T16:32:00.000-05:00Is it the Washington primary vote or the caucus vo...Is it the Washington primary vote or the caucus vote or both that count towards the total popular vote?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-80296780122047613452008-02-18T12:07:00.000-05:002008-02-18T12:07:00.000-05:00Interesting. So some areas may be entirely skewed ...Interesting. So some areas may be entirely skewed due to local ballot initiatives. Given that aspect, a clear conclusion to the vote isn't likely. The Fla. primary also had ballot measures that spiked turnout.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-7216313455712696112008-02-18T12:01:00.000-05:002008-02-18T12:01:00.000-05:00FYI I live in WA state and just so you know tomorr...FYI I live in WA state and just so you know tomorrow's primary is only for the presidential candidates. The other primary, for state and local candidates, is in September. In some areas, there will be local school bond measures and other things but it is mostly a waste of money. The state parties did not want it but the state apparently requires it anyway.<BR/><BR/>Since Washington state does not have party registration, the parties wanted to keep the caucus system so that they can keep the integrity of the process. As the US constitution states, organizations such as political parties have the right to freedom af association.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00042694616910964390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-63359325807740446082008-02-18T11:46:00.000-05:002008-02-18T11:46:00.000-05:00The primary has a lot more at stake if you live in...The primary has a lot more at stake if you live in that state. Are you arguing that Obama supporters don't care about who rules their daily lives? The superdelegates are chosen by local voters. If you don't care about local candidates, why would you be surprised when they "vote their conscience" (aka protect their base) by voting what their constituents want?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-85421816268418851922008-02-18T11:36:00.000-05:002008-02-18T11:36:00.000-05:00Wait - the Clinton campaign is arguing that we sho...Wait - the Clinton campaign is arguing that we should look to the opinions of those who turn out when their choice has no effect on the outcome of the election, rather than those who turn out when their choice counts (affects delegate selection)? She's really determined to remain the low information voter candidate, isn't she.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-1064901986014756022008-02-18T10:50:00.000-05:002008-02-18T10:50:00.000-05:00It will be interesting to see if Obama supporters ...It will be interesting to see if Obama supporters also vote for state and local candidates or whether their participation is limited to Obama. The continued viability of those elected officials that serve as superdelegates is contingent on this factor. It may also give us insight into how many will show up in Nov.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-47757928036068279262008-02-18T10:33:00.001-05:002008-02-18T10:33:00.001-05:00It's an interesting comparative exercise. My state...It's an interesting comparative exercise. My state has both,but we keep only the valid results,the primary ones. Clearly the primary trumps the caucus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-34577136549272385412008-02-18T10:33:00.000-05:002008-02-18T10:33:00.000-05:00The response from Obama is that people who attende...The response from Obama is that people who attended the caucus probably see no need to vote in the primary, so you have to rebalance the primary vote by some arbitrary factor to come up with a meaningful pro forma. You could probably do some exit polling to get a sense of how many voters attended caucuses, then discount the caucus result by that factor, etc.<BR/><BR/>It's all spin at this point. Bottom line: the idiots running her campaign screwed up big time by assuming a combination of hierarchy support plus name recognition in large blue states would do it for her. She should have seen this coming as soon as Iowa results were in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-69133351227929245692008-02-18T10:10:00.000-05:002008-02-18T10:10:00.000-05:00The primary is more to select the state and local ...The primary is more to select the state and local party nominees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-59213255024725059892008-02-18T09:54:00.000-05:002008-02-18T09:54:00.000-05:00After having a caucus that counts, why in the frel...After having a caucus that counts, why in the frell would you need a primary that doesn't? Seems like a waste of energy, time, and money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com