tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post1945969104202867923..comments2023-11-05T02:58:27.295-05:00Comments on Campaign Diaries: Increasing the confusion, Democrats refuse to settleTanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17333289018970623022noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-39106557750843978012008-03-06T20:23:00.001-05:002008-03-06T20:23:00.001-05:00Obama is not even being called. You admitted Bill ...Obama is not even being called. You admitted Bill is a proven liar. Says a lot about the Clinton's character!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-4600768028164874142008-03-06T20:23:00.000-05:002008-03-06T20:23:00.000-05:00Obama is not even being called. You admitted Bill ...Obama is not even being called. You admitted Bill is a proven liar. Says a lot about the Clinton's character!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-10715986230517296672008-03-06T19:23:00.000-05:002008-03-06T19:23:00.000-05:0020:58-You have a selective memory. Bill was impeac...20:58-You have a selective memory. Bill was impeached for lying under oath and Libby was indicted for the same. When Barack gets under oath,his fast and loose with the facts will end his career for sure. It's a certainty. He doesn't have the skill to not lie while avoiding touchy issues. Fitzpatrick is a shrewd man. Obama is toast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-72599082727814692532008-03-06T07:58:00.000-05:002008-03-06T07:58:00.000-05:00Why the hell is Puerto Rico allowed to vote - it c...Why the hell is Puerto Rico allowed to vote - it cannot in the General Election. The CLinton campaign should say it doesn`t count because red states do not. She will be going for a 270EV strategy only - leaving no room for error. An Obama-McCain contest would at least be a 30-35 state affair and could yield some unusual results rather than take us back to the 90's rigidity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-51245508397118290342008-03-06T05:01:00.000-05:002008-03-06T05:01:00.000-05:00I wouldn't be so sure of that. Hillary pulled off ...I wouldn't be so sure of that. Hillary pulled off some incredible wins with last minute voters; "identity politics" would indicate long seated sentiments that would have been at odds with those results.<BR/>-------------------------------------<BR/><BR/>And you believe polls???? Face it, this race has NO mo, its 100% Identity politics.<BR/><BR/>Lets run down the last 12 races.<BR/><BR/>Wyoming = Obama by 15.<BR/>Mississippi = Obama BIG 30% or so.<BR/>Pennsylvania = Clinton by 10. Ed Rendell (PA Gov.) is 100% correct. PA whites will NOT vote for a black man. The REAL reason Obama lost in OH also.<BR/>North Carolina = Obama by 10-15<BR/>Guam = Dunno, have no idea of the Race makeup.<BR/>Indiana = Obama (Very Close though<BR/>) Could go wither way.<BR/>West Virginia = Clinton 10-15<BR/>Oregon = Obama 10-15<BR/>Kentucky = Clinton 10+<BR/>Montana = Obama Big<BR/>South Dakota = Obama<BR/>Puerto Rico = Dunno. That have a VERY odd system thats impossible to figure out. Its all "Party Bosses of 2 opposing parties". Kinda like the USA 150 years ago.<BR/><BR/>Mark it, This will be the results of the last elections.<BR/><BR/>Big Obama Voting blocks. Blacks, "Rich" educated Whites. College kids. <BR/><BR/>Big Clinton Voting blocks. Latinos, Blue collar Whites. Jews.<BR/><BR/>Just find the states with these groups and average them out.<BR/><BR/>So far ONLY WI has not followed this very simple pattern.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-15049251672640197092008-03-06T04:09:00.000-05:002008-03-06T04:09:00.000-05:00I should have pointed out that my proposal in my l...I should have pointed out that my proposal in my last post hinges on Hillary winning Pennsylvania, and then taking wins out of 're-votes' in Michigan and (most importantly) Florida.<BR/><BR/>I should have noted also that Barack may be called as a witness in the Rezko trial (for the defense!). That could prove to be enough to shake the confidence of future super delegate support to Hillary's side, while leaving a sense of indifference in the minds of voters.<BR/><BR/>What exactly comes of the Rezko matter is anyone's guess, but the very implication or association could prove detrimental to the party's chances of securing the nomination in the eyes of Democratic insiders. That might be enough to force Barack to step back and let the convention rework the math for a Clinton nomination.<BR/><BR/>A bit wild, yes, but theoretically it's now become a plausible scenario.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-84959135797455082272008-03-06T03:32:00.000-05:002008-03-06T03:32:00.000-05:00anonymous of 20:59:Clinton has momentum which tran...anonymous of 20:59:<BR/><BR/>Clinton has momentum which translates to deliverance in the general come November. The Democrats want the White House; why split hairs on delegates, states, etc. Politics is about winning, plain and simple.<BR/><BR/>And that's correct; 'pledged delegates.' No candidate has delegates because they have yet to be awarded, making it possible for Hillary to push Barack out and still claim the nomination at the Democratic convention if the powers that be decide that it's the most effective strategy for winning against McCain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-2314507560716821372008-03-05T20:59:00.000-05:002008-03-05T20:59:00.000-05:00Clinton is behind in the number of states won, the...Clinton is behind in the number of states won, the popular vote (even including FL) and pledged delegates. What part of behind do Clinton supporters not understand?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-31052906572456120652008-03-05T20:58:00.000-05:002008-03-05T20:58:00.000-05:00What lies? The meeting with the Canadians - wow on...What lies? The meeting with the Canadians - wow one possible lie. <BR/>How many lies have the Clinton's made?? We know Bill Clinton has lied - he has admitted it after wasting at least 1 year of his presidency.<BR/><BR/>So stop attacking Obama for something the Clinton's are ever more guilty of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-52670239807051808722008-03-05T19:33:00.000-05:002008-03-05T19:33:00.000-05:00Obama is far from the likely nominee. It's still C...Obama is far from the likely nominee. It's still Clinton. Obama had a chance but blew it by proving once and for all that he has no credibility. Time and time again he's been shown to have lied. He doesn't learn from the same mistake that he keeps repeating of denouncing allegations that turn out to be true. If by some miracle he survives and becomes the nominee, this will be his downfall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-49900755554276434102008-03-05T18:26:00.000-05:002008-03-05T18:26:00.000-05:00One answer to the question at the end of the blog ...One answer to the question at the end of the blog is that if Obama wins PA then game over form Clinton. Of course this is difficult because the governor is supporting her (much like his Ohio counterpart). PA is similar demographics to Ohio but Obama did win Wisconsin by 17% and that has similar demographic - poor white, very few latino's etc.<BR/><BR/>The next 7 weeks may do Obama a favor in that he can show he can stand upto tough questioning - time will tell.<BR/><BR/>I agree that if the press had been hard on Clinton she would not have been allowed to stay in after losing 11 straight contests - caucuses, primaries, east, west, all over the place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-39008147212609352512008-03-05T16:57:00.000-05:002008-03-05T16:57:00.000-05:00I don't buy all this the press was too hard on Hil...I don't buy all this the press was too hard on Hillary stuff. Yes, there was a lot of rooting for Obama and lots of Hillary putdowns but they took her seriously. If Obama's delegate and popular vote leads were switched with Hillary's the press would have treated Obama much like they treated Huckabee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-22519405073202401922008-03-05T16:14:00.001-05:002008-03-05T16:14:00.001-05:00Oops. Last two sentences, I guess.Oops. Last two sentences, I guess.Political Realmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108991698118103726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-10926355239991681762008-03-05T16:14:00.000-05:002008-03-05T16:14:00.000-05:00I think you're last sentence sums up the race goin...I think you're last sentence sums up the race going forward perfectly.Political Realmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108991698118103726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-62821179747899428912008-03-05T15:50:00.000-05:002008-03-05T15:50:00.000-05:00I actually have more to add on how things turned o...I actually have more to add on how things turned out last night, but me? I'm slightly hungover from watching the evening's results on my computer while I quietly drank alone in the darkness.<BR/><BR/>You're a vocal bunch, so dish. Why do think the March 4th elections turned out the way that they did?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-66609137609344199792008-03-05T15:41:00.000-05:002008-03-05T15:41:00.000-05:00anonymous of 15:09:I wouldn't be so sure of that. ...anonymous of 15:09:<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't be so sure of that. Hillary pulled off some incredible wins with last minute voters; "identity politics" would indicate long seated sentiments that would have been at odds with those results.<BR/><BR/>The fact remains that Obama's campaign, much in regards to Plouffe and Axelrod, has been stumbling all week and it seemed to really resonate with voters. <BR/><BR/>I think the media also played a major role in two separate ways. First, it absolutely bristled at the lampooning it got from Saturday Night Live's 'does Barack want a pillow?' bit, and second, because voters seemed to resent the fact that so much of the major news gleefully centered on the final demise of Clinton.<BR/><BR/>The short and simple might just be that campaign and media politics happened and the voters reacted. Taniel really nails it at the top: "Democratic voters do not want this race to end. Given the opportunity to hand the nomination to Barack Obama, they rallied behind Hillary Clinton and made sure the race would go on until -- at least -- April 22nd." <BR/><BR/>I would slightly amend that, though, to simply specify voters regardless of being Democratic or not, as the Republican race has almost felt like a prolonged Looney Tunes episode, what with yoo-hoos like Huckabee and Ron Paul running, not to mention the farce of a campaign that Giulianni waged. Thompson? Yeah.<BR/><BR/>And seriously, it makes me sound like a total nerd, but this whole thing makes stuff like the Oscars and the Super Bowl look like child's play. I hope this election goes on forever and ever and ever and ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5027045200173644956.post-46471679481462469712008-03-05T15:09:00.000-05:002008-03-05T15:09:00.000-05:00Oh, come on, you cant be serious.TX win = Latino (...Oh, come on, you cant be serious.<BR/><BR/>TX win = Latino (No way in shit im voting for a black guy) vote.<BR/><BR/>OH win = Blue collar (No way in shit im voting for a black guy) vote.<BR/><BR/>This whole election is "Identity Politics". Which is a nice left wing phrase for "Race and Gender".<BR/><BR/>Obama will win Wy and Miss. the next week for the exact same reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com